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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42839</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrican - I expect Perry to win because he has energised the base with his red meat tone and policies. This just goes back to my earlier point that in elections with mediocre turnout (50-60%) then who votes is very important. In Europe which has typically higher turnout (70-90%) then the actual national "mood" counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrican - I expect Perry to win because he has energised the base with his red meat tone and policies. This just goes back to my earlier point that in elections with mediocre turnout (50-60%) then who votes is very important. In Europe which has typically higher turnout (70-90%) then the actual national &#8220;mood&#8221; counts.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrician</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42813</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy -- good points. We will get a better feel for how this may play out when (if) White makes a decision to go up against Perry. Wayne Slater, chief political writer for the Dallas Morning News is a good source to follow for "inside politics" news in Texas. His reporting and credible polling in the coming months should provide some interesting clues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy &#8212; good points. We will get a better feel for how this may play out when (if) White makes a decision to go up against Perry. Wayne Slater, chief political writer for the Dallas Morning News is a good source to follow for &#8220;inside politics&#8221; news in Texas. His reporting and credible polling in the coming months should provide some interesting clues.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42790</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrician - some fair point. I would point out that McCain won by 11% whereas Bush won by 23%. Yes Bush was a popular Governor from that state but the GOP lead was halved. Time will tell if Democrats can sustain and build upon 44% but I wouldn`t just blindly say they have no chance and that Texas is sooooo conservative that Dems cannot win. It depends on who turns up to vote on the day, especially when turnout in US elections is no better than 55-60%.

Texas received over $11 billion in stimulus funds - are you saying $11 billion doesn`t buy much nowadays?? Texas received around $6 billion in direct grants which prevented them from either cutting spending (teachers, policemen etc fired) or increasing taxes. In my own state of North Carolina the $1.5 billion we recived did prevent even further cuts (we cut over $3 billion in spending and that was painful).

I agree the Dems haven`t won statewide in a while but they are more likely to win statewide in a "local" race rather than Federally. This pattern is seen in other red states like Oklahoma, Tennessee and others who elect Democrats to some statewide office but do not vote for Democratic Senators or Presidential candidiates.
I agree it will cost White money to increase his name recognition but he has a pile behind him now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrician - some fair point. I would point out that McCain won by 11% whereas Bush won by 23%. Yes Bush was a popular Governor from that state but the GOP lead was halved. Time will tell if Democrats can sustain and build upon 44% but I wouldn`t just blindly say they have no chance and that Texas is sooooo conservative that Dems cannot win. It depends on who turns up to vote on the day, especially when turnout in US elections is no better than 55-60%.</p>
<p>Texas received over $11 billion in stimulus funds - are you saying $11 billion doesn`t buy much nowadays?? Texas received around $6 billion in direct grants which prevented them from either cutting spending (teachers, policemen etc fired) or increasing taxes. In my own state of North Carolina the $1.5 billion we recived did prevent even further cuts (we cut over $3 billion in spending and that was painful).</p>
<p>I agree the Dems haven`t won statewide in a while but they are more likely to win statewide in a &#8220;local&#8221; race rather than Federally. This pattern is seen in other red states like Oklahoma, Tennessee and others who elect Democrats to some statewide office but do not vote for Democratic Senators or Presidential candidiates.<br />
I agree it will cost White money to increase his name recognition but he has a pile behind him now.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrician</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42757</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guy - some counterpoint. You are giving to much credit to stimulus funds spent in Texas. A November 19 Dallas News article states, "Such figures follow a Dallas Morning News report that the 19,752 jobs created or saved in Texas with stimulus money appear to be overstated because some recipients grossly overestimated the number of jobs created. And today, a new federal report is expected to raise questions about the quality of data and validity of claims about the number of jobs created or saved." Link --  http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories
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Caterpillar Inc. building a $170 million engine-manufacturing plant in Seguin that will employ more than 1400 people and Toyota moving production of Tacoma pickup trucks from Fremont, CA to San Antonio had nothing to do with federal stimulus funds.

It is true that Perry alienates moderates to a certain degree but Texas is a very conservative state. The big lead Perry has over KBH in the primary polls verifies that.  The Obama wave of 2008 didn't really help Dems in this state. He wasn't able to carry Texas even with the increased turnout of Hispanics in the lower Rio Grand valley.

I would like to see some data that indicates Dems are 'more likely' to win statewide races rather than federal ones. If this is true why are all statewide offices including the nine judges on the Texas Supreme Court Republican?

White is the mayor of Houston. Like most mayors of major cities they are elected by people living in the inner-city. If you were to ask an average voter on the street in San Antonio, Ft. Worth, Lubbock, Tyler, etc. who Bill White is, they would most likely have no idea. He can develop name recognition statewide but it is going to cost a lot of money to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy - some counterpoint. You are giving to much credit to stimulus funds spent in Texas. A November 19 Dallas News article states, &#8220;Such figures follow a Dallas Morning News report that the 19,752 jobs created or saved in Texas with stimulus money appear to be overstated because some recipients grossly overestimated the number of jobs created. And today, a new federal report is expected to raise questions about the quality of data and validity of claims about the number of jobs created or saved.&#8221; Link &#8212;  <a href="http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories</a><br />
DN-stimulus_19nat.ART.State.Edition1.4bab174.html</p>
<p>Caterpillar Inc. building a $170 million engine-manufacturing plant in Seguin that will employ more than 1400 people and Toyota moving production of Tacoma pickup trucks from Fremont, CA to San Antonio had nothing to do with federal stimulus funds.</p>
<p>It is true that Perry alienates moderates to a certain degree but Texas is a very conservative state. The big lead Perry has over KBH in the primary polls verifies that.  The Obama wave of 2008 didn&#8217;t really help Dems in this state. He wasn&#8217;t able to carry Texas even with the increased turnout of Hispanics in the lower Rio Grand valley.</p>
<p>I would like to see some data that indicates Dems are &#8216;more likely&#8217; to win statewide races rather than federal ones. If this is true why are all statewide offices including the nine judges on the Texas Supreme Court Republican?</p>
<p>White is the mayor of Houston. Like most mayors of major cities they are elected by people living in the inner-city. If you were to ask an average voter on the street in San Antonio, Ft. Worth, Lubbock, Tyler, etc. who Bill White is, they would most likely have no idea. He can develop name recognition statewide but it is going to cost a lot of money to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42638</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrican - some nitpicking - Perry won election last time with under 40% of the vote. Unlikely to be as fragmented a field this time. So it does not invalidate the larger point that Perry alienates moderates, especially with his secession talk and other far right talk.

Texas has done well, in part due to stimulus funds which meant its budget deficit was closed and no job losses were needed. If it hadn`t been for the "evil and un-American" stimulus plan then Texas would not be in as good a shape as it is. Many states have lower unemployment than texas so it isn`t doing fantastic.

Taniel is correct that the Dems are more likely to win statewide races rather than Federal ones. Doesn't say it is likely to win statewide but more likely.

White is the mayor of the largest City in Texas so he must have reasonable name recognition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrican - some nitpicking - Perry won election last time with under 40% of the vote. Unlikely to be as fragmented a field this time. So it does not invalidate the larger point that Perry alienates moderates, especially with his secession talk and other far right talk.</p>
<p>Texas has done well, in part due to stimulus funds which meant its budget deficit was closed and no job losses were needed. If it hadn`t been for the &#8220;evil and un-American&#8221; stimulus plan then Texas would not be in as good a shape as it is. Many states have lower unemployment than texas so it isn`t doing fantastic.</p>
<p>Taniel is correct that the Dems are more likely to win statewide races rather than Federal ones. Doesn&#8217;t say it is likely to win statewide but more likely.</p>
<p>White is the mayor of the largest City in Texas so he must have reasonable name recognition.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrician</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42618</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting analysis but it contains numerous false assumptions.

"First, he’ll have to run as an incumbent and defend the record in the midst of an economic crisis." Texas has the best record of any state during this crisis. It is the only state to have added jobs. Much of the economic growth in Texas has been attributed to the Texas Enterprise Fund legislated by Perry in 2003.  

"Combine all of this with the fact that Texans are more likely to vote Democratic in a local race than in a federal one..."
This is simply incorrect. Republicans hold every statewide office. Democrats win mayoral contests in places like Houston or Dallas but that has not been the case statewide since Ann Richards was the last Democratic governor. 

"White...his odds of winning the gubernatorial race are far stronger now that Governor Rick Perry looks slightly favored to win the GOP primary." How do you define 'slightly?' The most recent statewide polls have Perry leading KBH by 12-14 points. 

"Perry alienates most voters who aren’t part of the GOP base was evident in 2006, when he won re-election with only 38% of the vote in a 4-way race." Actually it was a 6-person race with 5 of them being credible candidates. Perry received 39% and the next closest, former Dem Congressman Chris Bell got 29.8%. 

"Not quite a toss-up, but White has a lot of assets (not the least of which is money, since he can transfer the $4 millions he’s raised for the Senate race to a gubernatorial campaign)" Tony Sanchez was the Democrat candidate against Perry in 2002 and self-funded, spending over $20M. Perry easily defeated him, winning 57.8% of the vote. White has very little statewide name recognition. He will have to raise millions to improve his ID. $4M is a pittance. Perry has 100% name recognition. This race is no-where near being a toss-up.

The wind is blowing at hurricane strength in Texas against Obama's policies and Dems in general. It would take a Republican meltdown of biblical proportions for a Democrat to win the governorship under the conditions that currently exist and that will most likely carry well into next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting analysis but it contains numerous false assumptions.</p>
<p>&#8220;First, he’ll have to run as an incumbent and defend the record in the midst of an economic crisis.&#8221; Texas has the best record of any state during this crisis. It is the only state to have added jobs. Much of the economic growth in Texas has been attributed to the Texas Enterprise Fund legislated by Perry in 2003.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Combine all of this with the fact that Texans are more likely to vote Democratic in a local race than in a federal one&#8230;&#8221;<br />
This is simply incorrect. Republicans hold every statewide office. Democrats win mayoral contests in places like Houston or Dallas but that has not been the case statewide since Ann Richards was the last Democratic governor. </p>
<p>&#8220;White&#8230;his odds of winning the gubernatorial race are far stronger now that Governor Rick Perry looks slightly favored to win the GOP primary.&#8221; How do you define &#8217;slightly?&#8217; The most recent statewide polls have Perry leading KBH by 12-14 points. </p>
<p>&#8220;Perry alienates most voters who aren’t part of the GOP base was evident in 2006, when he won re-election with only 38% of the vote in a 4-way race.&#8221; Actually it was a 6-person race with 5 of them being credible candidates. Perry received 39% and the next closest, former Dem Congressman Chris Bell got 29.8%. </p>
<p>&#8220;Not quite a toss-up, but White has a lot of assets (not the least of which is money, since he can transfer the $4 millions he’s raised for the Senate race to a gubernatorial campaign)&#8221; Tony Sanchez was the Democrat candidate against Perry in 2002 and self-funded, spending over $20M. Perry easily defeated him, winning 57.8% of the vote. White has very little statewide name recognition. He will have to raise millions to improve his ID. $4M is a pittance. Perry has 100% name recognition. This race is no-where near being a toss-up.</p>
<p>The wind is blowing at hurricane strength in Texas against Obama&#8217;s policies and Dems in general. It would take a Republican meltdown of biblical proportions for a Democrat to win the governorship under the conditions that currently exist and that will most likely carry well into next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
		<link>http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/11/23/is-white-switching/comment-page-1/#comment-42612</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 00:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article - interesting that in Texas of all sates the Democrats have credible candidates for both Governor and Senate. Even though I don`t expect them to prevail it does signal that by 2016 or so the GOP will not be able to assume Texas is safe with no effort involved. That does not bode well for the GOP in national elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article - interesting that in Texas of all sates the Democrats have credible candidates for both Governor and Senate. Even though I don`t expect them to prevail it does signal that by 2016 or so the GOP will not be able to assume Texas is safe with no effort involved. That does not bode well for the GOP in national elections.</p>
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