Comments on: Governor’s races: Heather Wilson will not run, Andre Bauer makes his move http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/ Obsessive political analysis Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:45:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Preston http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39384 Preston Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:18:34 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39384 I've never though there was a chance of Barrett dropping out either, but I've heard it from a few people. He is also having trouble getting permission from donors to his congressional account. Many of those donors are not so keen of him using the money for a gubernatorial race where Bauer and McMaster are candidates. Nobody in politics in SC believes for a second that Bauer is gay either. They will attack him on a lot of other things, but being gay isn't one of them. The McMaster camp was the one either starting or pushing the rumor about Bauer. McMaster had a campaign ad on Rogers' homepage for several weeks, starting out on the day of the "outing". I’ve never though there was a chance of Barrett dropping out either, but I’ve heard it from a few people. He is also having trouble getting permission from donors to his congressional account. Many of those donors are not so keen of him using the money for a gubernatorial race where Bauer and McMaster are candidates.
Nobody in politics in SC believes for a second that Bauer is gay either. They will attack him on a lot of other things, but being gay isn’t one of them.
The McMaster camp was the one either starting or pushing the rumor about Bauer. McMaster had a campaign ad on Rogers’ homepage for several weeks, starting out on the day of the “outing”.

]]> By: WorkingTommyC http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39379 WorkingTommyC Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:48:52 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39379 Barrett will not withdraw. He has too much money from selling his votes in D.C. to consider ever withdrawing. He's in through the primary. Barrett will not withdraw. He has too much money from selling his votes in D.C. to consider ever withdrawing. He’s in through the primary.

]]> By: fritz http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39289 fritz Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:40:10 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39289 Taniel: No, the Crist rumors have been around for years, are accepted by many people and he has a much higher political profile. Until the Sanford affair blew up few outside SC had ever heard of Bauer so his story is much less known although the rumors have been mentioned recently on local SC MSM. There is a lot of work being done now to out gay politicians who have legislated against the LGBT movement and this is just the latest instance of this practise. My reason for bringing it up is to point out it may become a factor(likely under the MSM radar) in the SC primary just as it has been in the Florida primary. Taniel:
No, the Crist rumors have been around for years, are accepted by many people and he has a much higher political profile.
Until the Sanford affair blew up few outside SC had ever heard of Bauer so his story is much less known although the rumors have been mentioned recently on local SC MSM.
There is a lot of work being done now to out gay politicians who have legislated against the LGBT movement and this is just the latest instance of this practise.
My reason for bringing it up is to point out it may become a factor(likely under the MSM radar) in the SC primary just as it has been in the Florida primary.

]]> By: Taniel http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39278 Taniel Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:03:23 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39278 fritz, You're making it sound like the Bauer rumors have been substantiated to a greater degree than the Crist ones. Is that the case? Last I had heard about this was Sanford allies raising that implication a few months ago, and this being covered as just an example that any single Republican gets "attacked" for being gay? fritz, You’re making it sound like the Bauer rumors have been substantiated to a greater degree than the Crist ones. Is that the case? Last I had heard about this was Sanford allies raising that implication a few months ago, and this being covered as just an example that any single Republican gets “attacked” for being gay?

]]> By: fritz http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39272 fritz Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:38:15 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39272 JR: I don't agree that rumors won't effect the race. I'm sure it is affecting the Florida race although I haven't seen any polling one way or the other. In South Carolina I can't see the gay card not being played if Bauer looks to be winning. There is a fare bit of evidence re Crist (see the HBO doc "Outrage") and Mike Rogers has a pretty good record in outing hypocritical closeted gays. As I said in my first comment lets see who endorses Bauer. My guess the tea party crowd will not be in his camp although he has been a big supporter of the Christian right. JR:
I don’t agree that rumors won’t effect the race. I’m sure it is affecting the Florida race although I haven’t seen any polling one way or the other.
In South Carolina I can’t see the gay card not being played if Bauer looks to be winning.
There is a fare bit of evidence re Crist (see the HBO doc “Outrage”) and Mike Rogers has a pretty good record in outing hypocritical closeted gays.
As I said in my first comment lets see who endorses Bauer. My guess the tea party crowd will not be in his camp although he has been a big supporter of the Christian right.

]]> By: Jaxx Raxor http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39262 Jaxx Raxor Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:33:26 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39262 I don't really see any credice to the gay rumors on Bauer, just like the gay rumors on Charlie Crist don't seem that credible. A mere rumor isn't going to stop Bauer at all. Perhaps if he actually was gay and admited it, but I don't think its going to happen. I don’t really see any credice to the gay rumors on Bauer, just like the gay rumors on Charlie Crist don’t seem that credible. A mere rumor isn’t going to stop Bauer at all. Perhaps if he actually was gay and admited it, but I don’t think its going to happen.

]]> By: fritz http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39261 fritz Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:23:17 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39261 The South Carolina primary may turn out to be as interesting as the one in Florida. It is likely to become very negative as Andre Bauer was recently outed by gay activist Mike Rogers on his website. His sexual orientation may be the reason many SC Republicans were not so keen to see him replace disgraced Governor Mark Sanford after his recent escapade. Then again SC has lived with rumors about Senator Lindsey Graham's sexual orientation for years, so who knows maybe they are more liberal than most people thought. I will be fascinated to see who endorses him if he actually enters the race. The South Carolina primary may turn out to be as interesting as the one in Florida. It is likely to become very negative as Andre Bauer was recently outed by gay activist Mike Rogers on his website.
His sexual orientation may be the reason many SC Republicans were not so keen to see him replace disgraced Governor Mark Sanford after his recent escapade. Then again SC has lived with rumors about Senator Lindsey Graham’s sexual orientation for years, so who knows maybe they are more liberal than most people thought.
I will be fascinated to see who endorses him if he actually enters the race.

]]> By: Cliff http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39248 Cliff Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:47:08 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39248 I think Susana Martinez is probably more electable then Wilson anyway. She just had too much baggage. The definition of someone we just need to turn the page on electorally. A fresh face like Martinez is better. She wasn't really a local politics girl anyway, she's more of a State Department/Defense Department sort (her PhD is in International Relations and she did a lot of work on homeland security issues). I doubt we've heard the last of Wilson, but it'll be as Undersecretary of State/Defense etc. She's done with electoral politics. I think Susana Martinez is probably more electable then Wilson anyway. She just had too much baggage. The definition of someone we just need to turn the page on electorally. A fresh face like Martinez is better.

She wasn’t really a local politics girl anyway, she’s more of a State Department/Defense Department sort (her PhD is in International Relations and she did a lot of work on homeland security issues). I doubt we’ve heard the last of Wilson, but it’ll be as Undersecretary of State/Defense etc. She’s done with electoral politics.

]]> By: Taniel http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39245 Taniel Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:39:52 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39245 Preston, thanks for pointing that out. I feel like I made this very same mistake before. Preston, thanks for pointing that out. I feel like I made this very same mistake before.

]]> By: Preston http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/10/30/wilson-out-bauer-in/comment-page-1/#comment-39244 Preston Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:15:22 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.com/?p=10361#comment-39244 Just to make it clear, in SC if a candidate doesn't get 50% in the primary there is a runoff. Both of these primaries are almost certain to go to runoffs. There has been some rumbling about Barrett dropping out of the race though. Just to make it clear, in SC if a candidate doesn’t get 50% in the primary there is a runoff. Both of these primaries are almost certain to go to runoffs. There has been some rumbling about Barrett dropping out of the race though.

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