Comments on: Rating changes, House edition: GOP continues to lose grip on base districts http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/ Obsessive political analysis Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:47:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6480 Anonymous Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:38:08 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6480 Murtha won't lose and PA goes where the Philly area goes not PA-12 Murtha won’t lose and PA goes where the Philly area goes not PA-12

]]> By: Jaxx Raxor http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6479 Jaxx Raxor Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:27:42 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6479 Ron I think Murtha could still lose even Obama wins the state overall, as Murtha's racist and redneck comments could be enough for him to cost him his seat. However, PA-12 corresponds closely to how Democrats usally do statewide, so if Obama loses PA, then it is very likely that he lost in PA-12 (or netted out a 1% or less margin of victory) and it would essentially be guarenteed that Murtha would lose. Basically, Murtha's only chance of victory now rests on Obama's coattails. Ron I think Murtha could still lose even Obama wins the state overall, as Murtha’s racist and redneck comments could be enough for him to cost him his seat. However, PA-12 corresponds closely to how Democrats usally do statewide, so if Obama loses PA, then it is very likely that he lost in PA-12 (or netted out a 1% or less margin of victory) and it would essentially be guarenteed that Murtha would lose.
Basically, Murtha’s only chance of victory now rests on Obama’s coattails.

]]> By: Ron http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6478 Ron Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:41:13 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6478 Jaxx, that is a good observation. I believe that the only way Murtha loses is if McCain ends up winning PA. Jaxx, that is a good observation. I believe that the only way Murtha loses is if McCain ends up winning PA.

]]> By: John in SoCal http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6477 John in SoCal Sat, 01 Nov 2008 17:11:59 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6477 True, it has changed from the original meaning of killing 1/10 of a population, but it still should only apply to killing, not other types of reduction or damage. Most language experts (more than 70%) do not consider it correct usage for it to apply to reduction or damage other than killing. See here for documentation http://www.thefreedictionary.com/decimated True, it has changed from the original meaning of killing 1/10 of a population, but it still should only apply to killing, not other types of reduction or damage. Most language experts (more than 70%) do not consider it correct usage for it to apply to reduction or damage other than killing. See here for documentation http://www.thefreedictionary.com/decimated

]]> By: Pragmatus http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6475 Pragmatus Sat, 01 Nov 2008 16:52:32 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6475 John in So Cal--"decimated" has evolved considerably from its original meaning, which was simply "the destruction of one-tenth". Similar examples of such evolution ("awful" no longer means "inspiring awe", nor does "terrific" indicate "causing terror") abound, and if "decimated" could only be used in its original strict meaning--well then it could never be used. John in So Cal–”decimated” has evolved considerably from its original meaning, which was simply “the destruction of one-tenth”. Similar examples of such evolution (”awful” no longer means “inspiring awe”, nor does “terrific” indicate “causing terror”) abound, and if “decimated” could only be used in its original strict meaning–well then it could never be used.

]]> By: fritz http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6474 fritz Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:31:45 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6474 Jack Murtha is one Democrat I wouldn't miss if he lost his seat. He is very simular to Ted Stevens in his love of pork and bullying manner. It would send a message to Congress that even safe Democrates who act like they can do or say anything are not always going to get re-elected. Jack Murtha is one Democrat I wouldn’t miss if he lost his seat. He is very simular to Ted Stevens in his love of pork and bullying manner. It would send a message to Congress that even safe Democrates who act like they can do or say anything are not always going to get re-elected.

]]> By: John in SoCal http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6473 John in SoCal Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:20:39 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6473 Hi Taniel - Love your analysis, it's one of the best of the web. You probably shouldn't use the word "decimated" in referring to the republican caucus, since that word should only refer to killing and not to damage or reduction by other means. (and I don't think they are literally going to be killed lol). Also, I am curious what your background is as far as the English language? Sometimes your phrases are so interestingly formed. Hi Taniel - Love your analysis, it’s one of the best of the web. You probably shouldn’t use the word “decimated” in referring to the republican caucus, since that word should only refer to killing and not to damage or reduction by other means. (and I don’t think they are literally going to be killed lol). Also, I am curious what your background is as far as the English language? Sometimes your phrases are so interestingly formed.

]]> By: Jaxx Raxor http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6476 Jaxx Raxor Sat, 01 Nov 2008 14:12:10 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6476 I agree that Murtha is in big trouble. Compared to fellow PA Democrat Karnoski (sp?) Murtha is in better shape thanks to his better senority, but it's definitintly going to get close. If Obama is the same or even weaker than Kerry was in 2004 (i.e if Obama wins PA by 3% or less) then Murtha is probably in big trouble. If McCain pulls a shocker and wins PA, then it is likely that Murtha's district will have voted for McCain, and Murtha almost certainly losing. I agree that Murtha is in big trouble. Compared to fellow PA Democrat Karnoski (sp?) Murtha is in better shape thanks to his better senority, but it’s definitintly going to get close. If Obama is the same or even weaker than Kerry was in 2004 (i.e if Obama wins PA by 3% or less) then Murtha is probably in big trouble. If McCain pulls a shocker and wins PA, then it is likely that Murtha’s district will have voted for McCain, and Murtha almost certainly losing.

]]> By: Electric Monk http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/11/01/rating-changes-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6472 Electric Monk Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:07:16 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/?p=3992#comment-6472 Random question: do you know of any resources that evaluate the quality of House and Senate races? You seem to cover ads + money, which is helpful, but it would be nice to see somewhere that spent some time on the usually only mentioned in Presidential/top Senate level profiles like campaign staff, GOTV quality, tactical & strategic positioning, and so forth. Random question: do you know of any resources that evaluate the quality of House and Senate races?

You seem to cover ads + money, which is helpful, but it would be nice to see somewhere that spent some time on the usually only mentioned in Presidential/top Senate level profiles like campaign staff, GOTV quality, tactical & strategic positioning, and so forth.

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