The tracking polls continue to converge around a 7% differential - certainly a large margin for McCain to overcome, and further evidence that Obama remains firmly in command. Meanwhile, there continues to be a dearth of state polls (which is surprising 16 days from Election Day), and the day’s few results bring some good news for both candidates.
On the one hand, McCain can take comfort in two polls of West Virginia showing him ahead outside of the margin of error. [Update: I am not suggesting, as some commentators gently criticize me for, that McCain leading in WV is an impressive feat, and yes, the state wasn't supposed to be competitive to begin with. That said, McCain's problem is the huge number of red states that are highly vulnerable, any one of which would tip the balance to Obama. With that in mind, for McCain to hold on to WV in two polls when ARG had Obama leading by 8% and Insider Advantage had the race within the MoE is certainly comforting for McCain.]
McCain can also be relieved by Mason-Dixon’s poll of Ohio. His lead in that survey might only be 1%, but Obama has run ahead in most OH polls taken in October. However, OH has been more resistant to Obama’s surge than other battlegrounds so it is less noteworthy to find McCain leading here than in VA or CO. Obama, meanwhile, continues to get great news from blue states. Three new polls show WI and MN are both in double-digit territory, and Obama has pretty much put all the blue states away. Also, a new poll of MT in the heels of three ND poll finding a tight race confirms that the Mountain West is back in play.
Before moving on to the full roundup of the day’s polls, I want to take a separate look at Zogby’s tracking poll. Longtime readers of this blog know that I very rarely question a poll because if we wanted to play that game we could find a fishy internal in every survey, and that’s not an interesting game to play. But Zogby’s decision to weigh partisan affiliation with only a 2% margin between Republicans and Democrats is incomprehensible.
Zogby’s internals show Obama leading by 8% among independents and getting 88% among Democrats. If Election Day numbers are anywhere close to that, there is no way Obama will lose the election. And this is not just the Democrats’ wishful thinking: All the raw data on registration trends and all public opinion surveys (for instance Pew’s) leave no doubt that there has been a significant shift in partisan affiliation over the past four years. In fact, applying (Republican pollster) Rasmussen’s party weights to Zogby’s internals gives us a 9% race.
If a pollster went out in the field to measure the electorate’s party affiliation and found only a 2% gap, Democrats ought to be worried. But Zogby did not go out in the field and discover that other pollsters were wrong based on his own interviews; rather, he decided to apply a 36%-34% weighting system a priori, regardless of what data his polling brought back. Now, it is certainly possible that the partisan differential will be closer to Zogby’s numbers than to those of all other pollsters, but if that were to happen it would mean that all the assumptions and voter registration trends we have been working with have been wrong - at which point Democrats will have a lot more to worry about than the electorate’s party breakdown.
Until other polls confirm that the electorate’s partisan ID has tightened (and for now, the contrary is true), take Zogby’s results with a grain of salt. On to the full roundup of the day’s polls:
- Tracking polls continue to show rare convergence around a 7% margin. Research 2000 and Diego Hotline are both stable at that level, and Obama gains 3% in Gallup’s expanded likely voter model to lead by seven (he leads by 3% in the traditional model and by 10% among registered voters). Obama gains one point in Rasmussen to capture a 51% to 45% lead. IBD/TIPP (a five-day tracking, so there still are two pre-debate days) has a 5% race, a 2% gain for McCain and back to where we were two days ago. Finally, Zogby has Obama leading by 3% today, down from 4% yesterday (no matter what we think of Zogby’s partisan weighing, the trend line is still valuable so I will continue posting the results of the poll.
- McCain leads 46% to 45% in a Mason Dixon poll of Ohio. The poll was taken Thursday and Friday, and it is a clear improvement for McCain over past Ohio polls.
- Obama leads 52% to 41% in a Star Tribune poll of Minnesota. He led by 18% two weeks ago. The poll was taken Thursday and Friday.
- Obama leads 52% to 39% in a Research 2000 poll of Minnesota.
- Obama leads 51% to 39% in a Mason Dixon poll of Wisconsin. The poll was taken Thursday and Friday.
- McCain leads 47% to 41% in a Mason Dixon poll of West Virginia. The poll was taken Thursday and Friday.
- McCain leads 50% to 42% in a PPP poll of West Virginia.
- McCain leads 49% to 45% in a Research 2000 poll of Montana. He led by 13% in mid-September.
- McCain leads 53% to 39% in a Research 2000 poll of Kentucky.
- Obama leads 52% to 40% in Morning Call’s 5-day tracking of Pennsylvania. He led by 13% yesterday.
Meanwhile, in down-ballot polls:
- Al Franken leads 41% to 39% with Barkley at 18% in a Research 2000 poll of Minnesota’s Senate race. Barkley gets 15% of Democrats and only 8% of Republicans… Among independents, the breakdown is 33-32-32!
- McConnell leads 46% to 42% in a Research 2000 poll of Kentucky’s Senate race. McConnell led by 13% a month ago. (24% of African-Americans say they are undecided, so Lunsford might have a bigger reservoir of votes.)
- Bev Perdue leads 48% to 43% in a Research 2000 poll of North Carolina’s gubernatorial race. She over-performs Obama and Hagan, something we had not seen in the past few surveys.
- In WY-AL, a Mason Dixon poll finds Democrat Gary Trauner leading 44% to 43%.
- Safe seats: In Montana, Research 2000 finds no reason the GOP House representative and the Democratic governor should worry.
Research 2000’s poll from Minnesota is one of the first suggestions we have had that Barkley is hurting Franken more than he is hurting Coleman. His candidacy makes Minnesota’s Senate race very difficult to handicap, as it is hard to know the direction third party candidates will take in the final stretch: If voters come to think that Barkley has a shot at winning, his total could shoot upwards - and there is no telling how that would affect the Coleman-Franken match-up.
Meanwhile, Kentucky’s race is certainly competitive, but polls have found the race within the MoE since late September. Will Lunsford be able to pull ahead by Election Day? The best sign for Lunsford is that McConnell is well under 50% in most polls, and the undecided-break-for-the-challenger rule applies even more strongly in the case of such an entrenched incumbent.


eep the ood work, Taniel. An objective blogger always prevails, and you have done a thrmendously wonderful job of informing us voters without a hint of unbalanced blogging, in my humble opinion.
Now, let me reflect on my personal (yes, personal and maybe biased) take on the election. Of all red states, Ohio is the most racialized state. it is the state with the highest percentage of voters who said they won’t vote for Obama because of his race during the primariy contest between him and Hillary. And that is why Ohio remains “resistant” to diversity and integration into the diverse and more harmonious United States. Ohioans have every right to reject Obama as much as they want, but for me as a white person with family and friends in Ohio, thi state is a backward, tradition-bound one sure to resist America’s progress as a great nation.
Now speaking of polls, I don’t trust John Zogby, period. Your ability to avoid criticizing him may reflect your keen desire to remain objective, Taniel; but polls, whilethey have been mostly reliable during much of the primaries, we have to question underlying motives (could the pollsters be reflecting the wishes of their respective political parties?) because they aren’t nonpartisan. Nonetheless, lets see what happens as the week progresses starting tomorrow.
Zogby polls are a joke. I remember they misled me in the days leading to the 2004 election making me believe the Kerry would win.
I like how you try to be even handed but if one of the two pieces of good news McCain can tout is him leading in WV then it is bad for McCain. It is like saying Obama leads in NJ. WV was never considered, until recently, to be in play after the Dem primary in June.
McCain cannot spin this data as a comeback if most of the tracking polls are now converged at 7% - 7% is a big hill to climb in 16 days.
Regarding Bev Purdue in the NC Governor’s race. I think she is under-performing both Hagan and Obama from anecdotal evidence - my wife and several neighbors will be voting Obama and Hagan but are certainly not voting Purdue. I expect the Libertarian candidate, Mike Munger of Duke University, will get a good vote (for a libertarian) because of disaffected Democrats.
Guy
Just out of curiosity, why aren’t you voting for Perdue?
Is it because of the nasty primary? (That ripped the Democrats in my family apart!)
Guy,
I have never shied away from saying that Obama is in command, and I was certainly not trying to suggest that holding on to WV is good news for McCain in a sense that is relevant to his winning… I said it was comforting for him, which it certainly is after that ARG poll showing Obama leading by 8%. Also, in the day’s polling there were no other competitive red states polled than Ohio and West Virginia - with a slight lead for McCain or both. My post has been updated to reflect this point!
And I am also interested in Joe’s question about Perdue!
Taniel - you have been very fair. My point, which I may not have made well, is that if “good” news for McCain is that he is a little ahead in WV then things are really bad for him.
Regarding Purdue, my wife supported Richard Moore who is the state treasurer (he has made NC have the second best pension fund in the country and we have a AAA credit rating which most states don`t have). But she was fully prepared to vote a full Democratic ticket. The debates here have been enlightening. Bev comes across as culturally conservative in her mannerisms, pretty vague on what she would do and Mike Munger (Chair of the Duke Political Science) department is a pragmatic Libertarian who I know several people have been impressed with on. He has some solid ideas for the state (expanding Charter schools, having an independent roads commision etc) and is willing to be independent (the only candidate to be against the death penalty and for same sex unions). But the main reason is a lot of people have said that Bev Purdue “annoys” them and it isn`t really anything specific, but if people have that feeling it can be hard to shake. I know this may not be the best answer to your query but if someone annoys you, even if ill defined, then you will not vote for them.
Bev should be an easy winner since Democrats become Governor even when their Presidential nominee gets beaten by 12% so if Obama comes within 2% you would expect a boost of maybe 10% for the Democratic Governor nominee - she doesn`t seem to be benefiting from Obama’s coattails.
if you look on Daily Kos and the NC thread (click through NC Governor poll) you will see several Kos readers who are Democrat saying they are unlikely to vote for Purdue or will vote for her whilst holding their noses. This does not bode well for her.
SurveyUSA Minnesota: Obama 50 - McCain 44
(It was 47-46 for McCain last time.)
Enough is enough. Millions of house keys have been swarmed back into the Banks. Millions of citizens living and working in the number one country have not been receiving any decent dental/ health care! How many people are sleeping during this winter in the caravans? Total bankcrupcy of “laissez fair” ideology! Total bankruptcy of people’s trust in Bush-McCain’s terrible party policies.
Let’s do something in our reach to make Mr.Obama President of USA.
Hope for an important change for a better future for Amercia and the world. May God bless Mr. Obama and the Americans.