Comments on: Obama’s VP and the Left’s nightmares http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/ Obsessive political analysis Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:12:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Mark http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4217 Mark Sat, 31 May 2008 22:01:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4217 Ah, I get the feeling that Richard V may just be a real big Clinton fan... Ah, I get the feeling that Richard V may just be a real big Clinton fan…

]]> By: Robert_V http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4216 Robert_V Sat, 31 May 2008 15:16:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4216 Richardson helps Obama in New Mexico and that is about it. Small state, five electoral votes, that I think Obama will win anyways. He does not do anything for Obama in Texas, which will not be in play for the Dems even if a LBJ is in the ballot. I am afraid Hispanics do not vote in the same maner as African Americans, good old governord Richardson did not do that well among Latinos in Nevada, where he was in the ballot. Beside, among Latino supporters of Hillary Clinton, gov Richardson stock is very low. No. The only path for gov Richardson to the inarguration is if he buys a ticket to the balls. A deserved reward for a spineless, untrustworthy, treacherous pol! Richardson helps Obama in New Mexico and that is about it. Small state, five electoral votes, that I think Obama will win anyways. He does not do anything for Obama in Texas, which will not be in play for the Dems even if a LBJ is in the ballot. I am afraid Hispanics do not vote in the same maner as African Americans, good old governord Richardson did not do that well among Latinos in Nevada, where he was in the ballot. Beside, among Latino supporters of Hillary Clinton, gov Richardson stock is very low. No. The only path for gov Richardson to the inarguration is if he buys a ticket to the balls. A deserved reward for a spineless, untrustworthy, treacherous pol!

]]> By: Mark http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4215 Mark Sat, 31 May 2008 11:33:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4215 The trifecta from Virginia comes immediately to mind:<br/><br/>Keane / Warner / Webb<br/><br/>The trifecta from the Rust-belt comes second to mind:<br/><br/>Casey / Strickland / Bayh<br/><br/>What does Obama need?<br/><br/>A white man, a conservative leaning democrat, preferably catholic and with ties to the rust belt, or at least, trusted by the rust belt.<br/><br/>That would be Casey or Keane, but Strickland is also a minister, so I can imagine him being a help overall.<br/><br/>Or, a governor with ties to the hispanic community:<br/><br/>Richardson. Richardson puts TX wildly in play and secures NM for Obama.<br/><br/>SUSA polling shows him doing consistently better with Edwards, but Edwards doesn't want the job. The trifecta from Virginia comes immediately to mind:

Keane / Warner / Webb

The trifecta from the Rust-belt comes second to mind:

Casey / Strickland / Bayh

What does Obama need?

A white man, a conservative leaning democrat, preferably catholic and with ties to the rust belt, or at least, trusted by the rust belt.

That would be Casey or Keane, but Strickland is also a minister, so I can imagine him being a help overall.

Or, a governor with ties to the hispanic community:

Richardson. Richardson puts TX wildly in play and secures NM for Obama.

SUSA polling shows him doing consistently better with Edwards, but Edwards doesn’t want the job.

]]> By: Robert_V http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4214 Robert_V Sat, 31 May 2008 08:45:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4214 I like Ted Strickland a lot, and I think he is one guy that can actually deliver the goods in the form of a win in Ohio. Barack wins Ohio, and he migth well be the next president of the United States. That aside, my concern has always been with the extremes of both parties. Listen to Air America or read bloggs like Kos and you get the distintive impresion that the level of lunacy in the left is again at high tide. And boy are they going to be disappointed! If Barack is elected I beleve he will govern from the moderate middle. We will be in Iraq in November 2008 and also in November 2009. He is not going to take NAFTA apart, and a radical change of the tax code is not in the horizon. Young Obama followers, welcome to reality of politics, the ancient art of give and take. I like Ted Strickland a lot, and I think he is one guy that can actually deliver the goods in the form of a win in Ohio. Barack wins Ohio, and he migth well be the next president of the United States. That aside, my concern has always been with the extremes of both parties. Listen to Air America or read bloggs like Kos and you get the distintive impresion that the level of lunacy in the left is again at high tide. And boy are they going to be disappointed! If Barack is elected I beleve he will govern from the moderate middle. We will be in Iraq in November 2008 and also in November 2009. He is not going to take NAFTA apart, and a radical change of the tax code is not in the horizon. Young Obama followers, welcome to reality of politics, the ancient art of give and take.

]]> By: Javier http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4213 Javier Sat, 31 May 2008 07:51:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4213 I completely agree with terence, They would all make great secdef, but running mates not so much,and ideal running mate would be a women with experince and national security credentials, is it Hillary? who knows? if Obama doesn't feel comfortable with Hillary then I think Richardson would add experience, help out with Hispanics and might swing NM our way.<br/>Biden is another possibility I completely agree with terence, They would all make great secdef, but running mates not so much,and ideal running mate would be a women with experince and national security credentials, is it Hillary? who knows? if Obama doesn’t feel comfortable with Hillary then I think Richardson would add experience, help out with Hispanics and might swing NM our way.
Biden is another possibility

]]> By: Terence http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4212 Terence Sat, 31 May 2008 05:26:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4212 Nunn/Webb/Hagel might make a fine Secretary of Defense in an Obama Administration, but I agree -- they would be bad running mates and would turn off large segments of the Democratic base. Nunn/Webb/Hagel might make a fine Secretary of Defense in an Obama Administration, but I agree — they would be bad running mates and would turn off large segments of the Democratic base.

]]> By: Taniel http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4211 Taniel Sat, 31 May 2008 03:07:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4211 Robert, <br/><br/>Note that I did not include people like Evan Bayh and Ted Strickland (very moderate Democrats) on my list, as the type of criticism aimed at Nunn/Webb/Hagel is different than the one that would be aimed at simply any moderate Democrat. In the case of the trio I detailed here, it is a dramatic irreconciability with basic liberal principles that is at stake. Robert,

Note that I did not include people like Evan Bayh and Ted Strickland (very moderate Democrats) on my list, as the type of criticism aimed at Nunn/Webb/Hagel is different than the one that would be aimed at simply any moderate Democrat. In the case of the trio I detailed here, it is a dramatic irreconciability with basic liberal principles that is at stake.

]]> By: Robert_V http://campaigndiaries.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/comment-page-1/#comment-4210 Robert_V Sat, 31 May 2008 02:49:00 +0000 http://campaigndiaries.wordpress.com/2008/05/30/obamas-vp-and-the-lefts-nightmares/#comment-4210 And there my friend is the crux of the matter. The perception of the lunatic left in the Democratic Party, that the country is in sync with them, and therefore, this is the year to advance the “Progressive Agenda”. Sounds very close to the lunatic right similar believe in previous years that America was a right wing country. We are neither. We are a center right country, moderate in most issues. Very patriotic, and yes, we love our guns, our cars, and deep down most of us want to win in Iraq! We are also totally disgusted by the Republican Party, and the abuses from the right. What we are not about to do is to turn in the other direction and endure the abuses from the left. In a basic instinctive way, Barack Obama seems to understand that fact, giving credence to his great political skills. Therefore it makes sense that his VP election will not only add geographical balance to this ticket, but ideological balance too! But Chuck Hagel is a pipe dream. He is still a very conservative republican. He would be absolutely unacceptable to even folks like me, and I am not a lunatic left wingnut. And he does not add any electoral power to the ticket, Obama still loses Nebraska by 20 points! So don’t be distress flower children. Hagel is not going to be the VP. But somebody in the Ted Strickland mold might be! And there my friend is the crux of the matter. The perception of the lunatic left in the Democratic Party, that the country is in sync with them, and therefore, this is the year to advance the “Progressive Agenda”. Sounds very close to the lunatic right similar believe in previous years that America was a right wing country. We are neither. We are a center right country, moderate in most issues. Very patriotic, and yes, we love our guns, our cars, and deep down most of us want to win in Iraq! We are also totally disgusted by the Republican Party, and the abuses from the right. What we are not about to do is to turn in the other direction and endure the abuses from the left. In a basic instinctive way, Barack Obama seems to understand that fact, giving credence to his great political skills. Therefore it makes sense that his VP election will not only add geographical balance to this ticket, but ideological balance too! But Chuck Hagel is a pipe dream. He is still a very conservative republican. He would be absolutely unacceptable to even folks like me, and I am not a lunatic left wingnut. And he does not add any electoral power to the ticket, Obama still loses Nebraska by 20 points! So don’t be distress flower children. Hagel is not going to be the VP. But somebody in the Ted Strickland mold might be!

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